Hmmm....





  • Antikythera = the Cythera negaverse?



  • Alt-Cythera invented differential gears, yes.



  • I actually saw this article last week. I hope the salvage reveals more information on the Antikythera Device, but I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

    This might also be of interest in this situation.



  • Awesome! Maybe someone can work this into OoR or Sail? : __D

    Also, does that video answer the question if how Cythera ought to be pronounced? The same way they said Antikythera?



  • I doubt the pronunciation is the same, but I'm not an expert in Greek. I'd have to ask my sister.



  • I can't view the video from here, but I can discuss the pronunciation.

    • In Greek, the spelling is Κύθηρα.

    • In Modern Greek, υ and η are both "i" sounds, and the tonos indicates stress. That makes the pronunciation "KI-thi-ra".

    • In Ancient Greek, υ is a "u" and η is a long "a". Additionally, θ is actually a more forceful "t". So it ends up as "KOO-tay-ra" (stress doesn't really work like that in Ancient Greek, but I don't know enough about Ancient Greek to explain properly).

    • The way we typically pronounce Greek has more to do with the way that the Romans decided to transliterate Greek than the a priori pronunciation. Their spelling is based on pronunciation in-between Ancient and Modern Greek. They added X, Y, and Z to the end of the alphabet to accommodate this—X and Z for sounds that aren't in Latin, and Y because upsilon looked like U but was pronounced like I (the French name for "Y" is still "I Grèque", or "Greek I")

    • The language spoken in Cythera would have split off from Greek before what we call "Ancient Greek"; it would be closer to Mycenaean Greek. I don't really know about that, but scanning the Wikipedia page it seems that some sounds that were later lost in Greek, like h, y, and w, were still around. The letter F actually comes from Greek "di-gamma", which was used for the sound of W before it disappeared from Greek.

    If you can read IPA, Κύθηρα's Wiktionary page has a bunch of historical pronunciations.



  • @breadworldmercy453_bot, on 12 October 2014 - 03:51 PM, said in Hmmm....:

    Awesome! Maybe someone can work this into OoR or Sail? :D

    I don't think I know enough about mechanics or astronomy to fit that in. :huh: Also the timeline would be wrong, because Sail takes place after the ancient Greek era but before the Antikythera wreck was discovered.



  • Well the group in OoR is headed to the cult of Scylla... maybe the boat could have sunk somewhere near there...



  • Wowev Fiery, that's a much more complicated answer than I was expecting! So we can only guess how game-Cythera is supposed to be pronounced? : __\ When did you learn Greek anyway? o_O



  • @breadworldmercy453_bot, on 13 October 2014 - 08:35 PM, said in Hmmm....:

    Wowev Fiery, that's a much more complicated answer than I was expecting! So we can only guess how game-Cythera is supposed to be pronounced? : __\ When did you learn Greek anyway? o_O

    I took a semester of Modern Greek in college. I picked up some of the rest through a combination of linguistics courses and explanations in that class of why the pronunciation is so different from how we normally pronounce words from Greek.


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