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Thanks for making this thread, BW! 😁 Since the livestream, this topic felt like the last important thing to discuss. Tree of Life was confirmed an incomplete side-quest, Seldane as a language with historic inspiration, and then the hints given about the Cythera sequel. Looking back through the prophecies, I'd thought of a couple comments as well. First Prophecy In the first prophecy, I agree with your uncertainty about the Lost returning. See, I'd initially figured the "Voice of a God" referred to Alaric and the Lost being the mages, but then with the Voice being destroyed as the last act of the Tyrants, it must be a reference to the Cult of Scylla, which makes sense given the religious overtones tying them together. But that does leave the question of Lost. It makes me wonder as to the nature of the Scylla themselves. Perhaps a subservient species to the Undine or exiled or something, but are they trying to come back in opposition to the Undine? Or are the Undine themselves the Lost? Tavara said the Undine played him for a fool with Abydos, but he was clearly still associated with them during the times of the Cult, despite UrSylph saying the "traitor" attempted to subvert the humans by worshipping false gods. Second Prophecy Again, I agree with most everything you say about the second prophecy. I'm also baffled why it says the Traitors do not fail since that seems to invalidate the Comana brothers. But from what we know about the Cythera sequel, it's not clear that we actually saved Alaric at the end, so I guess they didn't fail? If so, it's also unclear whether or not they were responsible for Alaric's fall or something more insidious (recall gandreas specifically called out "trust no one" when we spoke with Jhiaxus during the livestream). The Hidden does seem like the Undine since they joined forces with the Traitors, but my initial thought was the Cult of Scylla. That feeds back into prophecy one where the connection between the cult/scylla and the undine is not completely clear. In this case, I think assigning Master to Alaric is the most reasonable interpretation. The in-game mention of Master is interesting though. Perhaps the Hidden are the scylla and they are trying to overthrow the Undine? Comana may also have been trying to overthrow the Undine in the same way Tavara was working with them while seeking personal revenge. Third Prophecy The third prophecy beginning with the end of the second age and passing of the Great Unifier lines up with the first and last line of prophecy two, suggesting to me that the "Second End" is a reference to the second age ending. The rest is really open to interpretation. Are there more Air and Fire around to wreak havoc? We know the land will break into pieces, so is the One to Many Cythera itself or a reference to the crolna being broken again? The world is mentioned as being sundered separately, and so is the Opener of Ways (crolna from prophecy two) but as One. The Fifth Element seems to tell us how the Cythera saga will end. I thought humans had been referenced as a fifth somewhere before but may be misremembering. These "Walkers" seem like something different. I suppose today that refers to zombies, but I expect here it refers to humans or a class of humans like evolved mages. Those are my long rambling thoughts about the prophecies. One and Two are mostly clear. I just question the exact nature of the Cult of Scylla and how they tie into the Lost/Hidden. That question affects a couple little things, but in the grand scheme of the things, we know the third prophecy is more concerned with Alaric's death and the havoc of the other elements until the "Walkers" appear. I hope this covers a lot of the discussion that was had about the prophecies on Discord. Thanks again for making the topic! ... This reminds me I still need to make a topic about difficulty level in Cythera.

I've changed the Cythera Guides Forum again but shouldn't need to reset it anymore. I'm finally happy with it because it now has a complete history of the Cythera web board and runs on a very modern forum system. See my latest and last Ambrosia topic here for more info!

Pillars of Garendall, if anyone has a registered version. Or Theldrow, if anyone can beat that. Alternately: Delver-based machinema of Grapper's Return.

Heehee, you rock Wizzy : __D Well, my attempt to boot up my Linux laptop failed : __( Maybe it died, or maybe I'm being stupid and doing something wrong...

An amusing story as always. Well done :) . I think my favorite parts were the centrality of cats to the story (cats are very important to most stories as most people should know) and the fact that Wizard appeared and was late (as usual). @ikaterei_bot, on 01 March 2018 - 07:54 AM, said in Beyond Tiernan's Eyes: I'm suddenly wondering if story-Selax likes cats as much as author-Selax. Maybe it'll finally be something for him to have in common with T? I haven't really thought about that to be honest, but I'm inclined to doubt it. Story-Selax doesn't tend spend a lot of time thinking about this own likes and dislikes. He's too busy messing with other people's lives :p . @ikaterei_bot, on 01 March 2018 - 07:54 AM, said in Beyond Tiernan's Eyes: oh no, this doesn't bode well for Kat oh no. It's either Moonshadow or Adriana, isn't it? OH NO It's your own fault that you passed up the chance to kill Adriana in "Hym"...

So, I went ahead and split this for neatness. (Plus, we need more topics and it's a convenient excuse for using one's moderator powers.)

Well, it makes sense to me. I hadn't thought of the fact that Selax and Avatara both represent different elements, but it's a good point. Throw in Katerei for water and you have three represented. Now, all we need is a mage who specializes in dirt. Hello, Two Jacks. Good to see you around. I hope things are going well. I actually know pretty much how I want to proceed in OfR--it's just the amount of writing between me and the ending that's the problem.

So...does anyone third the nomination or does anyone have anything new to nominate?

@breadworldmercy453_bot, on 26 December 2016 - 08:29 AM, said in Set Sail on Kronos' Kronos Ship: Thanks, Tyry and Sely ^_^ You're welcome. @breadworldmercy453_bot, on 26 December 2016 - 10:00 AM, said in Set Sail on Kronos' Kronos Ship: Retsy's gone forever from Sail-world ^_^ Presumably "our" world's Retsy is still kicking around somewhere :\ Indeed, she's making her "living" as a wraith going around and scaring people into dropping loose change :p . @ikaterei_bot, on 27 December 2016 - 05:48 AM, said in Set Sail on Kronos' Kronos Ship: Oh okay, I can handle that. I can't imagine Cythera-world without her though. Quite. She's every bit as important to the Cythera-world as Wizard is.

I'm going to count this as my entry even though it barely referenced the show at all :p .

I wonder what happens if you use hacking to get Philinus out of Odemia before rescuing Ariadne; that is, what happens if he is with you when you rescue her. I assume they would both appear in Odemia when you leave a zone, but I would be curious to see if you could get them stuck in the wrong zone.