I tried to kill Alaric once when he was in his research room (I got the mace and hacked the locked door down). I casted death strike on him, and... I can't remember, it was a long time since. Maybe I should try again.

I try and do my best to keep other people out of my screen vicinity, I tell my people to wait and then I go and kill some beggars. Killing beggars is fun, funny and i've often used them to make some experience to gain another experience level.

Aside from that, the only real innocent people I've ever killed from what I remember is the cheese merchant from Cademia. I don't really know why; I feel kind of sad now, she's never up there yelling out "Fine Cheese!" Oh well, I never really buy from those people, if I do it's from inns, etc etc. I don't want to go off-topic.

Maybe I could try that trick, setting bombs in the way of Magpie or Alaric so that they get blown up... Or maybe cast a really devastating spell (a.k.a. fetch or death strike, fetch does work on people, does it?).

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**I must agree with almost everyone here that Cythera is a very good game and it establishes a most interesting world in which sparks many people's imaginations. It has been shown by thousands of posts and hundreds of stories for this to be true. If only Cythera had the plug-in architecture that the Pillars of Garendall or Escape Velocity series had. I believe it would be prudent to allow the fans of this game an editor so that we may extend the life of this game we have bought. Even Harry gave us an editor, and people used it to make good scenarios to the game. I imagine a set of resedit or resorcerer templates would do, just as in the EV series. I imagine the people here are clever enough to create their own bible. Imagine what life and excitement this would bring to the project! Let's bring Clan Lord into this-- it has much poorer graphics and engine than Cythera, but Delta Tao always adds more to it to make it exciting. Now I'm not asking for a multiplayer Cythera, that doesn't seem to fit with the game, but it is obvious that Clan Lord is a very old game and very old games can still be quite popular when new content is added. This is something we could do, and there are people who are willing to do so, but the developers aren't heeding their customer's wishes. I feel that since I have bought Cythera, I should be entitled to an editor...

...and remember: Putting wine in a bucket is a crude and boorish thing to do.

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Let's hope it would be pretty much as easy to use as the Harry editor.

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**hmmm...

Perhaps we could find Glenn and use the bayonett!

If not that we could always flood his E-Mail with spam...

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I don't think that is going to get us any closer to what we want at all. If we're going to e-mail him, we should ask him if he could please consult with ambrosia about this matter. I don't know... something.

Could somebody post a different thread about this? I dont' want to throw this thing completely off topic.

Well no, not a sequel, but kind of a downloadable update for Cythera that squeezes in MUCH more gameplay, making Cythera a long, long, long, long, longer, and I mean REALLY LONGER game. That, and they could carbonize both the update AND Cythera along with it. Besides, though mostly everything is revealed after playing Cythera numerous times, I still don't lose most of those great feelings. When there aren't questions about what is going on for me, I simply marvel at the power of the emotions that Cythera offers. Plus I still have that intrigue and ghastly feeling. Even though I know what will happen, most of these feelings don't leave me. I still love Cythera. It is SUCH a great game. I swear, if I had to take out all of my games but one, one of my absolute choices would be this game, Cythera. Or Marathon or something, some other game that I think is just as good, but this game is one of them. As I said before, there are games that aren't as good, there are games that can be JUST as good, but you just can't beat Cythera.

Goodbye!

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**Who said Cythera was a bad game? It just loses some of its suspense after you've played it hundreds of times. The low replay was the earlier point.

The D2/UT comparison don't work too well with Cythera. I only used them because you asked about them earlier, but those are different types of games than Cythera. Its difficult to fairly compare a full-fledged RPG with a first-person-shooter, the focus is too different. (usually the main focus isn't on storyline in FPSes) Something a bit closer to Cythera would be along the lines of Baldur's Gate (or perhaps Final Fantasy?).

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That's the problem. Ambrosia doesn't want to make any sequels to Cythera, which sucks.

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Doesn't have the best graphics?! Cythera has the best graphics! They are wondeful and I have NEVER seen anything like it. The AI is great and the animations are NOT bad.

To sum it all up, to me, Cythera is the most wonderful game ever created. I played it during the greatest time of my life, (99-00) and I have the greatest memories from ANY game, from Cythera. I cannot describe with words how much Cythera means to me and I will NEVER let it die!

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Paragraph 1 Reply: C'mon grandpa, have you checked out the new games? I suppose I was kind of making Cythera's graphics, AI and animations seem bad. Well, the graphics are actually pretty good, it's just the animations, really. The animations don't really bother me though. The AI, I'm not sure, you can give your party mates orders to alter their functions, but other than that, at least as far as I can remember I don't remember any other tactic the bots on Cythera used other than just walk up to you and attack. I suppose there is some tactics, though I'm not sure if they're exactly programmed, here are some good AI observations i've seen from fighting ruffians in Cademia's alleys:

Surrounding their opponents.
Ones that use a long range attack distract you enough so you can start attacking back, and then sometimes some melee opponents come and nail you.
Well, not exactly an ATTACKING AI source, but those ruffians sure do patrol a lot until they see a troublemaker.

But even if other games have better graphics, animations, and AI, I still think Cythera is the best. There are games that are not as good, there are games that can be JUST as good, but no game, I mean NO game out there will beat Cythera, even though Cythera doesn't have too much replay value.

Paragraph 2 Reply: I DEFINATELY agree. Well, I don't think it's the ONLY best game out there, but no game can beat it. I like games such as Marathon 1 (that's right, Marathon 1, M2 and M Infinity I don't like) as much as I do Cythera. I hope you enjoyed the greatest time of your life. How old were you then, 16? Anyway, I'm with you buddy, I WON'T LET CYTHERA DIE! And though some people may think we're nuts by having some computer game affect us, Cythera is a GREAT game.

Lastly, I would like to give my own thoughts on Cythera. Here is the moment of truth. Cythera is such a great game:

Cythera, to me, is kind of like the best movie or book. Long, flowing plot as you go, many perils and suspense, and mystery, and intrigue... I like the emotions that Cythera gives that no other game, especially no crappy game like UT could EVER give me. It's those... feelings: What/who is behind all of this? What does that mean? What are these things? What happened? This is scary. This is weird. I wonder why this is? This is confusing. This is shocking. Wow. The pieces all fit together now. I can't believe it. Etc etc etc. Except for the other games that I like the best, NO other game has EVER given me these types of emotion. And you also get that "I'm there" feeling, and all of those relaxing ambient sounds, and the music... I just wish I was there sometimes. I never felt before that I wanted to be in some world, since it would always seem so naive, but the land of Cythera... Ahhhhhh. And there's the adventure: there is so much obersvation and intrigue in the adventure, so many perils, and surprises, everything. And there are so many oppurtunities for you in the land of Cythera. I've noticed how the adventure in Cythera isn't exactly so narrowed: You can do these priorities now or later, you can come down and sleep for the night, you can go to Pnyx, you can explore for cool secrets, you can make money, and MORE oppurtunities. I still love Cythera, and I still play it frequently. The point of it was not to just show a bunch of aggressive action and survival like UT or Diablo II, but to give the emotion and feeling of the adventure and plot, offer all the intrigue of the fascinating experiences in a land full of amazing possibilities, all through an RPG, literally fun-packed style game. Those who say Cythera is a bad game don't seem to understand that. :rolleyes:

With all that said, I guess i'll wrap this up and save more for my next post on this. So, who here:

Thinks Cythera is the best/one of the best games there ever was?
Still plays Cythera?
Wants Cythera to be carbonized?

Any of you? And you too, Seldane. I won't send any hate mail or anything if you say no to any of these. Well, see all of you later. And remember:

NEVER USE A PC UNLESS IT'S BECAUSE IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH A GAME THAT A MAC ISN'T COMPATIBLE WITH!!!
Just wanted you guys to know.
Bye!

All i'm gonna say is, no replayable thing of UT and WCIII is EVER going to beat Cythera. Cythera is, for me, the best game altogether. So what if it doesn't have the best graphics? So what if the Combat AI is a little choppy, and if the animations suck? I don't give. Everything else is great.

I REALLY wish that they'd update or at least carbonize Cythera. Once in a Mac Addict magazine, I read somewhere that soon their new Macs would have OS X and ONLY OS X. Are you ready to leave OS 9 behind completely? That's the problem. If I switch to those kinds of computers, I won't be able to play games like Cythera.

Anyway, also reply to the main topic. I don't want this to go off-topic.

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Fact of the matter is, as much as I love Cythera, this isn't the most active webboard on the web. Personally, I haven't played the game in a very long time, and last I was here, few people had. When a game goes that long without being updated, it has a hard time surviving on its own. Slayer's guide (as much a blessing as it is) only made the disinterest hit sooner.

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This seems to be because those OTHER games (Unreal Tourny, WCIII) :redface: seem to be more popular than games like Cythera. What I don't understand. :frown:

It's a pity. :frown: I really hoped that this Cythera community would live on.

It's hard to believe that this forum is mostly keeping alive partly due to given references by the few Cythera fans left out there, just to attract the attention of others. :eek:

And so they come here. And what do they do? Post stuff like THIS.

I don't want to go out to that gaming world. Where it's all WCIII and UT this, and WCIII and UT that.

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**Its scary how much some people change in what seems so short of a time.

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It's scary how this seems to be quickly floating off topic, as if digging up an old thread weren't bad enough. Padlock, please!